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outside of our borders, the nsa's more aggressive. it's not constrained by laws and part of what we're trying to do over the next month or so is having done an independent review and brought a whole bunch of folks, civil libertarians and lawyers and others to examine what's being done, i'll be proposing some self-restraint on the nsa and to initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence. but i want everybody to be clear, the people of the nsa generally are looking out for the safety of the american people. they are not interested in reading your e-mails. they are not interested in reading your text messages and that's not something that's done and we've got a big system of checks and balances, including the courts and congress who have the capacity to prevent that from happening. >> mr. president, let's look at the question of confidence. 50 years in john f. kennedy spoke here at the american university. let's listen to something that he said that i think we're now in this country politically. >> our problems are manmade.
outside of our borders, the nsa's more aggressive. it's not constrained by laws and part of what we're trying to do over the next month or so is having done an independent review and brought a whole bunch of folks, civil libertarians and lawyers and others to examine what's being done, i'll be proposing some self-restraint on the nsa and to initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence. but i want everybody to be clear, the people of the nsa generally are looking out for the safety...
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. >> and the former head of the nsa and said that his activities have permanently damaged u.s. security. >> it's very, very hard. this is the -- this is catastrophic for the safety and security of the american nation. what this very narcissistic young man tag down. >> fox news was told there are questions abouten0s stay and whether he had contact with a foreign national who facilitated his travel to russia. >> all this came out in the sunday programs yesterday, on the cbs one. and i wonder if we have heard from ed snowden or the report are who handled the documents. >> e-mailed glen green walled with the information that snowden had help and couldn't have taken this documents on his own but we have yet to get a sops -- response. fox news found that 37 reports based on nsa leaked documents and of the total, only 25% dealt direct live we known record of american citizens and national security lawyers who deal with government fraud and abuse cases say they're skeptical. >> anything that goes to the heart of what the definition of a whistle blower is, does not fit to snowden's disc
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>>> then the nsa is spying on america video gamers. what are they hoping to find in the worlds of war craft. and what happened to cause a plane to crash in san francisco? is the problem getting worse? >>> i'm jake tapper in for erin burnett. just hours from now, the president and nearly 100 other world leaders will join thousands of mourners to pay respects to nelson mandela. the staid july is seat 94,000 people. and every seat is expected to be filled. it will rival the funeral for winston churchill. in addition, president obama, george w. bush, president clinton and president carter will be there. raul castro will be there. will mandela's message of forgiveness resonate? and a time crunch of epic proportions, will the venue be safe? first on the security front. joe worked on security for pope john paul's funeral. what could go wrong? but a lot could go wrong. >> yeah, south africa's not entirely a safe place. you have a large somali community there, with connections to shabaab. monitoring these will not be easy. you have the problem
>>> then the nsa is spying on america video gamers. what are they hoping to find in the worlds of war craft. and what happened to cause a plane to crash in san francisco? is the problem getting worse? >>> i'm jake tapper in for erin burnett. just hours from now, the president and nearly 100 other world leaders will join thousands of mourners to pay respects to nelson mandela. the staid july is seat 94,000 people. and every seat is expected to be filled. it will rival the...
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it is scandalous that the nsa can't protect its own secrets from its contractors. not even its own public employees. >> dana, just moving a little bit -- staying on the situation a little bit, but on a slightly different angle, the house and senate committees on intelligence, mike rogers, dianne feinstein, we saw them talking about this doom's day scenar scenario, where mr. snowden is partly to blame for making things much worse in our national security situation. take a listen. >> so you think about what's happened with the recent disclosures. we now have three the al-qaeda affiliate groups have changed the way they communicate. means it's less likely we're going to be able to detect something prior to an event that goes operational, meaning that they have already started the final planning stages to blow something up or shoot someone. >> a will i bit of an off oh key message. very interesting, right before the holidays, a lot of encouragement by public officials to get out and shop and get out into the malls and then this really sort of scary message coming out o
it is scandalous that the nsa can't protect its own secrets from its contractors. not even its own public employees. >> dana, just moving a little bit -- staying on the situation a little bit, but on a slightly different angle, the house and senate committees on intelligence, mike rogers, dianne feinstein, we saw them talking about this doom's day scenar scenario, where mr. snowden is partly to blame for making things much worse in our national security situation. take a listen. >>...
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there has been a great deal of effort not just by nsa, but by the u.s. central command, to try and put people pretending to be either gamers or people in chat rooms otherwise seemingly unaffiliated with these groups to try and penetrate these networks but we really haven't seen that either, a, these sorts of online environments led to actual terrorist plots or, b, much evidence of how much intelligence was really usefully collected out of them. >> after 9/11, intelligence agencies were faulted for a failure of the imagination. here we are watching them and they're trying to rectify that. thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> when the very people responsible for this new culture of oversharing tell you you're being too nosey, maybe it's time to take a good hard look in the mirror. facebook, twitter, google, they are among several tech giants calling on the nsa to back off. eight companies signed an open letter to the obama administration and congress calling for new limits on government surveillance. they say while they understand the nee
there has been a great deal of effort not just by nsa, but by the u.s. central command, to try and put people pretending to be either gamers or people in chat rooms otherwise seemingly unaffiliated with these groups to try and penetrate these networks but we really haven't seen that either, a, these sorts of online environments led to actual terrorist plots or, b, much evidence of how much intelligence was really usefully collected out of them. >> after 9/11, intelligence agencies were...
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the nsa says it is to prevent terrorism. but often that data is being collected on people who don't have any connection to terrorism. and that's the reason why you see these companies asking the government to change the law so the companies can in fact protect their customers' privacy. here's what they had to say in their letter they sent out today. the balance in many countries has tipped too far in faf of the state. and away from the rights of the individual. rights that are enshrined in our constitution. this undermines the freedoms we all cherish. it's time for change. >> and evan, talk specifically about klein because we know a lot of drops in sales have happened in china even though the economy there grew 8% in the third quarter. how does this impact the u.s. economy, as well? >> that's right. these are some of the most important companies to the u.s. economy. and already some are reporting their competitors in europe are stealing their business simply because these companies are able to say that they can offer better
the nsa says it is to prevent terrorism. but often that data is being collected on people who don't have any connection to terrorism. and that's the reason why you see these companies asking the government to change the law so the companies can in fact protect their customers' privacy. here's what they had to say in their letter they sent out today. the balance in many countries has tipped too far in faf of the state. and away from the rights of the individual. rights that are enshrined in our...
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the nsa leaks. they stole the spotlight and tied up well into the fall creating problems domestically and internationally. the rough year culminated with the biggest headache of all. let's bring in the monday gaggle joined by the grio. "the washington post" chief correspondent and dan, you wrote the lot of year, a conventional wisdom setting type of piece. they said they take an even longer view than year. i don't know what else you could expect. you start looking for the positives and we have been joking here off camera. i guess the positives are republicans got the blame for the shut down? that's the most successful political achievement for the year? >> i wouldn't say achievement, but they can look to that and say we are not in great shape, but the republicans are in worse shape. that's the way they continue to try to frame it. there is reality to that. the republicans take little joy out of the situation the president is in. if the president is at 40 or 42% when the mid-terms come up, a lot of d
the nsa leaks. they stole the spotlight and tied up well into the fall creating problems domestically and internationally. the rough year culminated with the biggest headache of all. let's bring in the monday gaggle joined by the grio. "the washington post" chief correspondent and dan, you wrote the lot of year, a conventional wisdom setting type of piece. they said they take an even longer view than year. i don't know what else you could expect. you start looking for the positives...
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obama's opinion ratings fell 14% in the three or four weeks after the nsa revelations. -it is a big issue. >> that has to be part of it. i'm sure chris will be talking about that. that's 7:00 tonight. make sure you watch at 7:00 with the president of the united states. should be great. if it's way too early, what time is it? >> ordinarily it's time for morning joe, but right now it's time for "the daily rundown" after a short break and chuck today has paul mccartney. >> seriously? >> [ lane ] do you ever feel like you're growing old waiting for your wrinkle cream to work? clinically proven neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair. it targets fine lines and wrinkles with the fastest retinol formula available. you'll see younger looking skin in just one week. one week? that's just my speed. rapid wrinkle repair. and for dark spots rapid tone repair. from neutrogena®. [kevin] paul and i have been r[paul] well...forever. [kevin] he's the one person who loves pizza more than i do. [paul] we're obsessed. [kevin] we decided to make our obsession our livelihood. [kevin] business was
obama's opinion ratings fell 14% in the three or four weeks after the nsa revelations. -it is a big issue. >> that has to be part of it. i'm sure chris will be talking about that. that's 7:00 tonight. make sure you watch at 7:00 with the president of the united states. should be great. if it's way too early, what time is it? >> ordinarily it's time for morning joe, but right now it's time for "the daily rundown" after a short break and chuck today has paul mccartney....
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says the nsa is more aggressive. the idea of big brother keeping track of our activity online just not sitting well with these companies. john? >> so alison, here is the thing. i feel like facebook and google know more about me than my wife does. isn't it a little bit hypocritical for some of the companies to talk about privacy issues? >> i think it is a little bit of hypocrisy going on. google and yahoo! collect information. it's the bread and butter of their revenue is to collect our information, so they can put those ads strategically where they want them and here is more proof as to why this speaks of hypocri hypocrisy. last month goingal greed to pay $17 million to settle a lawsuit that it place cookies on computers using apple's safari web browser for a two-year period without getting authorization. google was able to circumvent safari's privacy settings without users knowing or consenting to it. another offender, facebook, facebook collects more data than you can imagine. "consumer reports" said last year face
says the nsa is more aggressive. the idea of big brother keeping track of our activity online just not sitting well with these companies. john? >> so alison, here is the thing. i feel like facebook and google know more about me than my wife does. isn't it a little bit hypocritical for some of the companies to talk about privacy issues? >> i think it is a little bit of hypocrisy going on. google and yahoo! collect information. it's the bread and butter of their revenue is to collect...
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. >> remember, it was obama's loss with millennial's young voters started with the nsa scandal. you're being asked to go on a website and you have no security and everyone in the world is hacking. no wonder, they would be out of their minds to do this. pay the fine. >> can we just roll the one other from the president's youth summit. he fried it this way. >> i do remember what it's like being 27 or 28. and aside from the occasional basketball injury, you know, most of the time i kind of felt like i had nothing to worry about. of course, that's what most people think. until they have something to worry about. >> i don't -- i this that's called pandering. >> it reminds me of the awkwardness of richard nixon trying to talk to a crowd. >> but this is his base. >> but it is not working. >> if the media wasn't rolling over with their paws up in the air and actually -- >> we are asking tough questions. >> mainstream. >> i'm talking about mainstream what's basic job in life -- >> that's quite a visual, on their back with their paws up. >> they're lap dogs and rubbing their stomachs. if
. >> remember, it was obama's loss with millennial's young voters started with the nsa scandal. you're being asked to go on a website and you have no security and everyone in the world is hacking. no wonder, they would be out of their minds to do this. pay the fine. >> can we just roll the one other from the president's youth summit. he fried it this way. >> i do remember what it's like being 27 or 28. and aside from the occasional basketball injury, you know, most of the time...
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benghazi, fast and furious, the irs targeting of advocacy groups, nsa overreach, if you like your health care you can keep it. >> the president ordered anwar al awlaki killed by drone strike. >> the president effectively enacted the dream act himself. >> the deep water drilling ban, mr. holder's attempt to criminal justice by enforcing our laws, mr. obama's ignoring immigration laws in many cases. >> what is that? ten reasons? here's a message for the gop, forget impeachment. go out and win an election. joining me now are ryan grim and goldie taylor. thank you goet for coming on the show tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> ryan, what do republicans hope to gain by talking about impeachment when they know it's not going to happen? >> well, people like congressman farenthold are people that think the president wasn't born here. that he's not legitimate and they want him out one way or another. they couldn't beat him in '08, couldn't beat him in 2012. he'll leave in 2016, but they're too impatient for that. this is something they'll be on i think until the day he finally leav
benghazi, fast and furious, the irs targeting of advocacy groups, nsa overreach, if you like your health care you can keep it. >> the president ordered anwar al awlaki killed by drone strike. >> the president effectively enacted the dream act himself. >> the deep water drilling ban, mr. holder's attempt to criminal justice by enforcing our laws, mr. obama's ignoring immigration laws in many cases. >> what is that? ten reasons? here's a message for the gop, forget...
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. >> he says public scrutiny over american intelligence work including the nsa is hurting anti-terrorists already they are back. >> i thought you were talking about a horror movie but perhaps you are. >> perhaps i am. no matter what happens between now and the end of the year, the first session of the 113th congress will be remembered for historic gridlock. congressional records show they have enacted fewer than 60 laws in the first 11 months of this year. that is the lowest legislative output ever! the senate, by the way, won't return from its holiday break until december 9th. >> way to go, guys. >>> freezing rain blamed for being crashes in massachusetts including a 65-pile pileup in worcester and it sent more than 40 people to area hospitals and two seriously injured. one family said their dog was killed after their vehicle was rear ended several times. >> indra petersons is here with the weather and all of the answers. >> i can only do it when it's good weather and mild and yelling at me. a day or two, mild conditions into the northeast. you can see where the action is as you look at
. >> he says public scrutiny over american intelligence work including the nsa is hurting anti-terrorists already they are back. >> i thought you were talking about a horror movie but perhaps you are. >> perhaps i am. no matter what happens between now and the end of the year, the first session of the 113th congress will be remembered for historic gridlock. congressional records show they have enacted fewer than 60 laws in the first 11 months of this year. that is the lowest...
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the nsa does this the capability to gather data inside but it has not, chosen not to do it but it does track it outside the u.s. it's part of what is in the database of phone calls. go back and try to reconstruct where someone was or try to develop relationships, see who was in a certain place where maybe something bad happened, who was around a person the time the call was made, that data. they say it's valuable to gather information on suspected terror cells overseas. as you know it has caused concerns here and overseas that it's a violation of privacy. >> we also learned about stolen credentials and how stupid people can be about their passwords. tell us about that. >> well, i frankly thought that was the most interesting part of this story. if you look at the numbers it looks like a lout a million and a half p accounts, hit facebook, twitter, linked in, so forth. 2 million user names and passwords is not a lot when you consider over 2 billion users of this media, less than 1/10 of 1%. you're right the service call trust wave -- the thing all these user names and passwords were post
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this according to new documents from nsa leaker edward snowden who is in russia. and 46 million bucks. that's how much norman rockwell's saying grace painting sold at the auction. that's the highest price ever paid at auction for an american painting. it will be great to see it in steve's living room. elisabeth? >> merry christmas. or should i say merry quackmas. you know them as strong women to those beard guys on america's most popular show, one of them, "duck dynasty," miss kay, cory, missy and jesse join me from west monroe, louisiana, to share how their family celebrates christmas. merry christmas, my friends. >> merry christmas. how are you? >> we are great. we all had the best time with your family. you really get family time. we can't thank you enough for having us down there. we loved it, loved it. >> it was our pleasure. >> it was fun. now you guys are ducking the halls or decking the halls. give us your robertson family tips. what will you be decorating with? >> well, ducking the halls for us, of course, you have to have ducks in there and some deer and
this according to new documents from nsa leaker edward snowden who is in russia. and 46 million bucks. that's how much norman rockwell's saying grace painting sold at the auction. that's the highest price ever paid at auction for an american painting. it will be great to see it in steve's living room. elisabeth? >> merry christmas. or should i say merry quackmas. you know them as strong women to those beard guys on america's most popular show, one of them, "duck dynasty," miss...
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i've been a big supporter of the nsa program. i think it's unfortunate that it got caught up in the irs scandal, which was a scandal. but nsa over the years has donnieman duty for us. i know the senator, i've got a lot of respect for him. i also met jim clapper when he was the air force intelligence officer in korea 25 years ago. so i don't know the details and i'm reluctant to judge it unless i know. >> on a separate note, do you feel like we're in retreat everywhere? you got china, the deal we're cutting in iran. we talked about the ukraine in the green room. what is the over-- what's the main difference in tenor from the administration left and the one now? >> i don't think that barak obama believes in the u.s. as an exceptional nation and the whole concept that the world is a safer place, more peaceful place when the u.s. is powerful able to project its will. we're cutting the defense department, withdrawing from the middle east, and cutting the defense budget to the bone, doing enormous damage. people are no longer adversari
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. >> but a secret, if you need to keep a secret, you don't care in the nsa reads your e-mails because now you don't have anything to hide. >> so now you're switching sides on this issue? >> i guess. i don't know. i'm playing your role. i'm going to argue both sides of the issue. >> was the supreme court justice in the past that said it is my patriotic duty. >> but i understand the tax idea of tax avoidance is better than -- >> that sounds like it is not tax avoidance, that is tax evasion. if you're avoiding the taxes, it should be able to with stand -- >> it might be satisfying just to do it so they can't see. even if you're not breaking the law. >> by itself, it doesn't sound that bad. but when you combine it with the nsa reading the e-mails and you get into the long arm of the law -- >> no, i'm in favor of this. i'm in favor of the fed going after this because i think in order for taxation to work, that everybody should be held up to the same laws. you can find about what those tax laws should be, but you -- whatever the law of the land is what we all have to live under that rule. >
. >> but a secret, if you need to keep a secret, you don't care in the nsa reads your e-mails because now you don't have anything to hide. >> so now you're switching sides on this issue? >> i guess. i don't know. i'm playing your role. i'm going to argue both sides of the issue. >> was the supreme court justice in the past that said it is my patriotic duty. >> but i understand the tax idea of tax avoidance is better than -- >> that sounds like it is not tax...
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chris is going to ask the president about 2016, health care, and the nsa. you can watch the "hardball" special today at 3:00 eastern here on msnbc. >>> it's not a political storm they're battling in d.c. we'll get an update on all the snow, sleet, and ice that's threatening large parts of the atlantic coast today and tomorrow. >>> and in number ones, where is the happiest place to work? that's giving it away right there. stick around. we'll be right back. and we'll replace stolen or destroyed items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ i'm bethand i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like being creative, we like interacting with people. so you have time to focus o
chris is going to ask the president about 2016, health care, and the nsa. you can watch the "hardball" special today at 3:00 eastern here on msnbc. >>> it's not a political storm they're battling in d.c. we'll get an update on all the snow, sleet, and ice that's threatening large parts of the atlantic coast today and tomorrow. >>> and in number ones, where is the happiest place to work? that's giving it away right there. stick around. we'll be right back. and we'll...
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the nsa is going after their servers, going after their networks, so they're all rushing to encrypt the user data. they could have done that a long time ago. >> there is legislation that is pending right now that essentially is echoing what these eight tech giants now say they're pushing. do you see the tim cooks and mark zuckerbergs of the world, do you see them climbing the steps of congress to lobby for this? >> i haven't bumped into them in washington, at least not recently. >> not yet. >> i would like to see that happen, certainly, and we could use their support on some of the privacy bills, but again, i think we need to talk more about the amount of personal information that the companies themselves are collecting. that's the reason that the law enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies go to them. they have the data. if they didn't collect so much data, they would be a less attractive target for the government agencies. >> mark, thank you. >>> the world of weather. it is messy out there for so many of you. air passengers on the east coast being told to be patient today.
the nsa is going after their servers, going after their networks, so they're all rushing to encrypt the user data. they could have done that a long time ago. >> there is legislation that is pending right now that essentially is echoing what these eight tech giants now say they're pushing. do you see the tim cooks and mark zuckerbergs of the world, do you see them climbing the steps of congress to lobby for this? >> i haven't bumped into them in washington, at least not recently....